From: Kbrusati@aol.com Sent: dinsdag 10 augustus 1999 21:46 To: BELGIUM-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Passengers/Havre>NY/1833 National Archives Microcopy 457, Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York 1820-1897, Reel 20. From 22 June 1833 to 27 AUG 1833 (includes manifest numbers 429-701). I reviewed only the lists of ships that departed from Havre, France and while some entries were too light to read, I did make a note of any ship for which I could read the country of origin for any passengers was Belgium. I also noted the names and information for Belgian passengers, where I could read it. If you are interested in any ship, it may be possible to obtain a better microfilm copy from the National Archives itself. Barque Mazeppa from Havre - arrived NY June 29, 1833 - manifest 463 Constant CAUX , male 18, laborer Francoise Caroline FLEXQ (?), female 22 Madeline KAYSER, female 24, laborer Jacob KAYSER, male 34, laborer - died May 28 George Qui--?, male 29, laborer Michael W-NTZ, male 31, laborer Jean WISHAN(?), male 22, laborer Pierre KIFER, male 55, laborer Madeline KIFER, female 61, laborer Phillip KIFER, male 22, laborer Gug--i--? ROBACHER, male 26, laborer F--? PLOMMER, male 23, laborer Jean WOLFE, male 21, laborer (all above persons were from Belgium, but other non-Belgians were also listed) Ship Casimir Perrier from Havre - arrived NY July 29, 1833 - manifest 553A Joseph CARIZ, male 19, stone cutter ? CARIZ, female 50, stone cutter (first name blotted out) ? CARIZ, female 24, stone cutter (first name blotted out) ? CARIZ, male 24, farmer (first name blotted out) Thomas BARTH, male 52, laborer Martin BARTH, male 21, laborer Ignase BARTH, female 17, laborer Margerite SCHMIDT, female 58, laborer Anne SCHMIDT, female 28, laborer Jeanne SCHMIDT, male 24, laborer Marie SCHMIDT, female 23, laborer Chartel SCHILOZ, male 32, laborer Catherine SCHILOZ, female 32, laborer Michel SCHITOZ, male 6mos. Pierre ?, male 22, laborer (surname could not be read, he was listed after SCHITOZ family, but that was not Pierre's surname) Jacquel(?)BRICK, male 27, laborer Sophie BRICK, female 26 Elisabeth BRICK, female 5 Jean THOMAS, female 31, laborer Christine THOMAS, female 29, laborer Dorothee THOMAS, female 19 Jeanne THOMAS, female 4 Louis THOMAS, male 2 (all above persons were from Belgium, but other non-Belgians also listed) Brig Cyrus from Havre - arrived NY August 12, 1833 - manifest 610 entries could not be read on the film I reviewed; however, another researcher supplied the following names of Belgians from one page of the manifest-I will post other names at a later time, if I obtain them. Michel WAGNER, male 44, farmer Catharina WAGNER, female 34, wife Catharina WAGNER, female 14, child Jean WAGNER, male 12, child Catharine WAGNER, female 10, child Michel WAGNER, male 8, child Charles WAGNER, male 7, child Susannah WAGNER, female 6, child Margaretha WAGNER, female 4, child Maria WAGNER, female 2, child Theresa WAGNER, female 1, child Pierre KETTEL, male 38, farmer Catharina KETTEL, female 40, wife Catharina KETTEL, female 14, child Mathias KETTEL, male 2, child Jean WAGNER, male 35, farmer Catharina WAGNER, female 40, wife Pierre WAGNER, male 16, mason Margaretha WAGNER, female 11, child Jean WAGNER, male 9, child Catharina WAGNER, female 7, child Marie WAGNER, female 1, child (all above persons from Belgium, but other non-Belgians also listed) National Archives Microcopy 237, reel 15 - to NY - July 2, 1831 to January 31, 1832 Only lists of vessels from Havre, France reviewed. Ship Charles Carroll from Havre - arrived NY September 19, 1831 - manifest 272 only one from Belgium, a male 29, clergyman, name very hard to read writing, may be Sevrian Vandomme??? I hope this list may help someone. Kay